Category Archives: Lune Bus Action Group

A cautionary tale

Today Kirkby Lonsdale Coach Hire rescued two young girls who were abandoned, by Stagecoach, in Ingleton.

The girls caught the 12:15 No. 80 bus from Lancaster, arriving at Ingleton at 13:21. They both bought return tickets.

The Stagecoach driver neglected to tell them that when he turned round to return to Lancaster he was the last bus of the day between Ingleton and Lancaster. Never the less he still sold them return tickets.

What is quite ridiculous is that there are two more No. 80 buses, the 14:15 and the 17:15 from Lancaster to Ingleton but they do not return until the following day because both drivers live in Ingleton and they park their buses their overnight.

Knowing that there were two later buses to Ingleton the girls could be forgiven for believing that they would be able to return later the same day.

Fortunately, KLCH does have four buses between 15:58 to 19:58 to assist stranded Stagecoach passengers. Unfortunately, they cannot use the return portion of their Stagecoach tickets.

I am told, on reliable authority, that this is a frequent occurrence.

It would seem that Stagecoach runs the 80 services for the convenience of their drivers, not their customers.

Duncan Foster & John Keegan
The Lune Valley Bus Action Group

Bus Timetables

That scourge of wayward bus planners, Duncan Foster, has determined a series of errors in the bus timetables published by Lancaster County Council and repeated at various bus stops. The following is an email sent to a selection of influential parties to see if the errors can be corrected.

“There are anomalies in the published timetables for the Stagecoach 81 Service and the Kirkby Lonsdale Coach Hire services 582 and 81A, between Lancaster and Kirkby Lonsdale.

  1. Firstly: The timetable published by Lancashire County Council, https://www.lancashire.gov.uk/roads-parking-and-travel/public-transport/bus-timetables/bus-timetable-service/?service=LAAO081A for the KIL 81A service: This timetable shows a, Mon to Sat, 17:50 service from Kirkby Lonsdale via Whittington, to Lancaster. This service is also shown on the timetables displayed on the bus stops down the route. The service does not exist and has never existed. The same timetable also shows an 81A service from Lancaster at 07:45 on a Saturday. This service actually operates as a KIL 582 service rather than an 81A.
  2. Secondly: the timetable published by Lancaster County Council, https://www.lancashire.gov.uk/roads-parking-and-travel/public-transport/bus-timetables/bus-timetable-service/?service=LAAO081 for the Stagecoach 81 service. The timetable shows a 7:45, 81 service, Mon to Fri, from Lancaster, arriving Kirkby at 8:40. In fact, this service leaves at 7:35, arriving at Kirkby at 8:30 and runs 5 minutes earlier at all other stops along the route. The timetables displayed at the Booths and Market Square stops in Kirkby Lonsdale, show a service leaving at 18:20 passing through Melling to Lancaster. This service does not exist and never has done. There are a number of recorded instances of people waiting for this nonexistent bus.

Unfortunately because of the errors mentioned above, together with the errors contained in the timetables displayed at various bus stops, there have been many recorded instances of people missing buses or waiting for buses that in fact do not exist.

The people on the Arkholme, Whittington bank of the Lune were extremely relieved when the County Council arrived at an arrangement with Kirkby Lonsdale Coach Hire to provide a two hourly bus service, and now a couple of buses on a Sunday. We are trying very hard to persuade people to use the available bus service and improve its viability, but our efforts are thwarted by these timetable errors.

It would be helpful if all involved with timetabling at County, Stagecoach and KIL levels, worked jointly to correct, and thus protect, the services between Lancaster and Kirkby Lonsdale. We have also advised the very influential Lancaster Bus Users Group.”

Duncan Foster & John Keegan – Lune Valley Bus Action Group.

New Bus Service!!

Kirkby Lonsdale Coach Hire have announced that from Monday next, 3 September, they will be introducing an extra bus service, departing Lancaster at 17:00 and arriving Whittington at 17:46.

This is really good news because, at the present time, the last bus from Lancaster to Whittington leaves Lancaster at 15:45. The new bus therefore allows passengers and additional one hour fifteen minutes before having to leave.

Obviously the bus also provides an opportunity to take a later service to Kirkby than is currently available. At the moment the last bus is 16:31 from Whittington. With the last bus from Kirkby Market Sq leaving at 20:15 and arrive in Whittington at 20:22.

Duncan Foster & John Keegan

Morecambe to Malham

Kirkby Lonsdale Coach Hire bus driver, Colin Kennington, has produced a superb video (9 minutes long) of the Dalesbus Service 881, which his company operate between Morecambe and Malham, via Whittington and Kirkby Lonsdale.

The video is well worth watching, and demonstrates how lucky we are that KLCH have returned a service to Whittington.

The bus picks up in Whittington at 9:23 On Sundays, between 1st April and the 21st October 2018. It arrives in Malham at 10:50 and returns, leaving Malham at 16:05 arriving at Whittington at 17:32. It is possible to stop off elsewhere on the route and get a later bus, which starts at Ingleton. Click Timetable for the options.

Finally, there is a 39 minutes long version of this video with, naturally, many additional views taken on the route. Click on THIS link to view.

Enjoy.

John Keegan